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I can see they're not holding back on the carnage any. Urp. The more I see of the show, the more totally curious I am about everybody's backstory, connection, and future. Intriguing politics are intriguing.

Lysa and Robin: EW. The familial squick factor is so high on this show. *shudder* How could Cat not know that her sister had gone totally crazypants? The Eyrie set is magnificent, though. Also how could Cat not know that the psycho siblings of Tyrion Lannister are there with her husband and other children, and that by capturing Tyrion, she's put them in danger. I still can't believe what a bone-headed move that was.

I love Tyrion because he says the shit that I'm thinking, "Um, wtf would I send an assassin with my own fucking blade??" Hope he's okay. He's too interesting to die.

It's impossible to not love Arya, esp when she's bitchslapping palace guards and chasing cats. Please don't kill her. (This is how I feel about anyone I like. "Please don't die.")

And last week I wondered why Robert's bastards would matter. Maybe if none of the Royal Offpsring are actually his? Would that matter then? Could he take some random chick as a queen, boot Cersei, and have a new crown Prince? C'est possible?

As much as Baelish is a nebulous creature, he always manages to say something utterly loathsome. I get that it makes sense to kill Dany and her unborn child, as unpleasant as the idea is. But why was it necessary to compare such a political maneuver to killing a woman in bed just because she's ugly? I know I know, it's a trivial point, but it irritated me. DONT SLEEP WITH WOMEN YOU THINK ARE UGLY THEN. WHY SHE GOTTA DIE? Ahem. (Yes, he runs brothels so maybe I shouldn't expect any better from him.) Also why is he always creepily sharing inappropriate things with Sansa??

And the long building fight between Wolf and Lion. I know Ned's not The Hand anymore, but I was sort of shocked that Jaime would open battle on Ned--who is still a friend of the King's (even if they're spatting). I don't know quite the rules of society there, but it's really okay to just walk up to a Lord and start killing his men? Also, I initially thought that guy killed Ned, which I'd sort of braced myself for. SO GLAD HE IS NOT DEAD . Yet. I imagine that isn't too far off. (But don't tell me, please!)

Poor Jory. I really liked you, I'm so sorry you're dead. I'm just glad you're not more important to me.

Also, the people you'd like to see die never do (see Mountain, The).


Date: 2011-05-16 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
And last week I wondered why Robert's bastards would matter. Maybe if none of the Royal Offpsring are actually his? Would that matter then? Could he take some random chick as a queen, boot Cersei, and have a new crown Prince? C'est possible?

That's exactly why it would matter. It would effectively cut the Lannisters out of power, and doesn't suggest any good fate for Cersei's children (okay, Joff is a loathsome little brat, but the other two seem okay). The conversation between Renly (who is King Robert's brother) and Loras (the Knight of Flowers) is sort of about this, though neither of them seems to know it.

Also why is he always creepily sharing inappropriate things with Sansa??

I would guess, because Sansa reminds him of her mother. Did you catch the look on his face an episode or two ago when Cat said she thought of him as a younger brother?

Date: 2011-05-16 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
AHA. (And agree, Myrcella and Tommen seem thus far unpoisoned by their mother.)

And yes--I wondered about Loras planting that seed in Renly's mind, but it seemed more dangerous in creating strife than actually creating a bid for the throne. Westereos seems dominated by aggressive male power, and Renly doesn't seem like he'd have what it takes to make a real challenge.

Also makes me wonder who knows about the Twincest. Varys and Littlefinger both seem well aware of Things.

Speaking of Littlefinger--how is Cat such a strong and capable woman and such a spectacularly bad judge of character. I mean, maybe he was different when he was younger and they were friends, but gah. Why does she trust him so thoroughly.

Date: 2011-05-16 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
It seems that the show and the books are diverging somewhat, so what I say below isn't really spoiler-ish, since it contains info that *should* have been divulged by this point in the series, or the show just completely blurted out:

The Renly is the series is much more like a polished Robert: he's gallant, handsome, a medieval Metrosexual, really although very arrogant. Whereas Loras is a paragon of knightly behavior and almost effeminate good looks, but one who likes to act the chivalrous knight with all the ladies who swoon.

Indeed, the secret relationship between Loras and Renly was one of the better bits of mystery in the novels, with hints and innuendo... but the producers went another way. A little dissappointed.

Regarding Petyr and Cat - in the books, he was a ward of her father, because his father served her father on some military campaign, and she grew up around him, but at some point due to :yadda yadda yadda: Hoster Tully sent him away, but he found his way to prominence anyway...

He doesn't actually run brothels, he just invests in thim (as he does everything), spreading the realm's coin around to have a wide portfolio, except he avoids ships, amusingly saying "whores seldom sink, even when boarded by pirates."

Date: 2011-05-17 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
A lot of scenes this week that weren't (apparently) in the book.

I'm glad the producers went the more direct way on Loras and Renly. I've had enough with the vague homosexual nods (e.g., "pillow friends") and am glad to see the inclusion of gay characters as gay characters!

Date: 2011-05-18 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
yeah but... the only thing was that the vaguery of their relationship was one of the more satisfying mysteries in the series.... it explains A. Lot. if you could find all the clues.

Now, it's all served on a shaved platter.

Date: 2011-05-16 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Cersei and most of the Lannisters, I just want to shove in front of a truck. But Littlefinger... I love hating him in the books and can't wait to get to do so with the series character.

Date: 2011-05-16 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I agree with that assessment. Littlefinger is creepily fascinating, whereas I just outright haaaate the Twins.

Date: 2011-05-17 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
To be fair, the Lannisters aren't meant to be endearing. In fact, Cersei in this show is actually more human, softer and rational than her book counterpart.

Date: 2011-05-17 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Of course the Lannisters aren't meant to be endearing, thus the hate!


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